Anyone running MOTS-c and NAD+ combination? What changes have you noticed in energy or recovery?

During prep every variable matters more than it does in the offseason

The biggest mistake I see is stacking multiple cholinergic products without realizing it

I’ve been on Test + Mast with tirz during a cut and it’s been one of my favorite combinations

Has anyone compared it against citicoline?

Nothing crazy about that if your bloodwork is staying in range

I wouldn’t call it overkill I’d call it goal dependent

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I’ve heard tirz can make eating enough protein a challenge did you run into that?

Not gonna lie Mast has always been my favorite addition during a cut

I actually know a few guys running something similar for a cut and they’re happy with it

That’s actually a pretty balanced stack if everything has a reason

I figured tirz would kill my strength ended up maintaining almost everything while getting leaner

This honestly sounds more organized than half the random stacks I see online

I used tirzepatide after blowing up to almost 290. Lost over 70 pounds. Now that I’m back training seriously, I can’t imagine trying to grow on it. I have to remind myself to eat as it is.

I think GLP-1s are awesome for obese people, but once you’re already fairly lean the tradeoff starts getting ugly. Appetite is a tool when you’re trying to build muscle.