Anyone here build a solid back without heavy rows?

Been lifting since ’98. Every generation finds something new to blame instead of training harder.

My frame is naturally broad and honestly I took it for granted until I started training with smaller-framed guys. They had to work twice as hard on shoulder development.

Side raises. Hundreds of them over the years

My clavicles are narrow but my waist isn’t huge, so it balances out okay.

If your waist stays tight and your lats are thick, people usually overestimate your shoulder width anyway.

Not gonna lie, social media has people analyzing skeletons instead of programming.

I have really wide clavicles and weak delts. Doesn’t magically make you look jacked.

Respectfully disagree. Bone structure absolutely affects your ceiling in bodybuilding.

Fair point, but ceiling and starting point aren’t the same thing.

My first coach had ridiculously narrow shoulders genetically. Dude still won regional shows because everything else was balanced.

Wide clavicles help in men’s physique, especially from the front, but conditioning still wins shows.

I’ve noticed powerlifters don’t seem to care nearly as much about this conversation.

My bloodwork is dialed in, nutrition is locked, sleep is solid… and my clavicles are still the same lol. Genetics are undefeated.

I used to think I had terrible genetics until I compared old photos. Turns out I just had tiny delts and no lats. Three years later my frame looks completely different even though my bones obviously didn’t change.